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PS = Pam Stevenson - Agave Productions
SG = Sam Goddard
PS (Interviewer): Was there anything special they did to help you out or anything?
SG (S. Goddard): Except in their, in their part of the world, they did a lot of help. And, uh, you know, uh, we were in a very interesting phase in the state at that time. Uh, we had had old fashioned Democratic in quotes "democratic" uh, domination. But they were not the kind of Democrats that you associate with Kennedy or with, uh, uh, even Johnson. Uh, certainly not with Hubert Humphrey. Uh, and we had the, the sort of Republicrats that registered Democratic just so their vote would count on issues, but who voted very strongly conservative. We had a lot of that. And, uh, when we went to one-man, one-vote, the whole thing about legislative politics just changed radically and a lot of these names that you've been giving me lately were helps in the old legislature - able to things with them. And with the old party, uh, which was not in any sense like the party in New Jersey or places where there are strong Democrats. Even in Boston.